Fwd: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Route 57 North Melbourne tram corridor

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Subject:	Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Route 57 North Melbourne tram corridor
Date:	Sun, 7 Dec 2025 14:59:35 -0800 (PST)
From:	'brian_weedon' via TramsDownUnder <tramsdownunder@googlegroups.com>

There are two separate issues at play here. 

The first is that this corridor is the only location on the system where articulated cars are barred from operating. This results from the short safety zones within which all the doors of an articulated car won't fit. One quirky outcome is that Showgrounds extras run by B class trams use the Flemington Road/Haymarket route.

The reconfiguration of these stops is clearly a very high priority given the introduction of the G class trams next year.

The other constraint is time. The Epsom Road stop required a two week closure. I suspect there is now insufficient time to construct level access stops, and the  Department of Transport and Planning has taken a decision to make this a two stage project. The first stage will be the construction of the new stops with road level boarding, and stage two will see the addition of level access platforms.

The  Department of Transport and Planning should have been more upfront about these issues as the Public Transport Users Association and disability lobby groups will continue to raise this matter during the course of this project. And this is a headache for the Government as the next state election is in November 2026.

Brian Weedon

On Saturday, December 6, 2025 at 7:44:44 PM UTC+11 Robert Smith wrote:

The 25% reduction in stocks is directly from the DOT within the auditor general's update

Regards

Robert

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From: tramsdo...@googlegroups.com <tramsdo...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Malcolm Rowe <mal....@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2025 7:33:03 PM

To: tramsdo...@googlegroups.com <tramsdo...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Route 57 North Melbourne tram corridor

Thanks Robert, you are probably right and I agree that if so it is disappointing. 

From Mal in transit

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From: tramsdo...@googlegroups.com <tramsdo...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Robert Smith <rksmi...@outlook.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 6, 2025 1:35:11 PM
To: tramsdo...@googlegroups.com <tramsdo...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Route 57 North Melbourne tram corridor

 

From the documentation for Errol St "Have a tram flag to identify the tram stop location." This means a kerbside stop, also 3 car parks per side, an accessible stop would need about 10 per side.

The other 2 stops "Provide wider safety zones that offer more space for passengers to wait at the tram stop"

From: tramsdo...@googlegroups.com <tramsdo...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Mal Rowe <mal....@gmail.com>
Date: Saturday, 6 December 2025 at 11:37
To: tramsdo...@googlegroups.com <tramsdo...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [TramsDownUnder] Re: Route 57 North Melbourne tram corridor

On 06/12/2025 11:09, Robert Smith wrote:
> Replacing non-accessible stops with non-accessible stops, I think this
> is against the legislation if it was pre-December 2022. But as they
> have completely ignored the deadline, it is definitely against the
> legislation.
>
It's not clear in the provided documentation whether the stops will be
platform stops or not.  The consultation is about location, not stop design.

My guess is that platform stops will be installed.  However the only
indication of this is the abolition of parking spaces - required for the
greater width of a platform stop.

Mal Rowe pleased to finally see some alignment between low floor trams
and platform stops.

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