How many people in that interior metro photo would be standing if double deck trains were running?--By the way next time you ride it between Chatswood and Sydenham, just try reading text on your hand-held phone. The violent hand shaking makes it almost impossible except when stopped or slowing. It seems either the tracks were poorly laid, suspension too firm for the light bodies, or both. No problem with other trains.RichardOn 24 Mar 2025, at 2:09 pm, 'bblunt3473@yahoo.com' via TramsDownUnder <tramsdownunder@googlegroups.com> wrote:I think the line runs under the middle of the racecourse, and providing a station elsewhere close to the LR could be problematical.Brian--On Monday 24 March 2025 at 02:45:01 pm AEDT, Geoffrey Hansen <gnhansen290@gmail.com> wrote:Having a station a Rosehill would be good for interchanging with the Carlingford Light Rail line.
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--On Mon, 24 Mar 2025, 12:31 pm 'TP' via TramsDownUnder, <tramsdownunder@googlegroups.com> wrote:This is partly down to Labor, when it came into government, putting Metro West on hold while a review was commissioned, thus disrupting the procurement timetable. As I've said previously, their decision to delay the project for two years will cost more and so here it comes, right on cue.The Transport Minister, who should know better, repeats here Labor's election lie that Metro West cost previously increased by $12 billion when it hasn't hitherto increased at all. This lie is based on comparing an earlier estimate, made before the number of stations was finalised, with the final business case estimate based on the final number of stations as it is today. As quoted from Sydney Metro in the article, the cost still remains on budget at $25.3 billion.Tony P--On Monday, 24 March 2025 at 09:36:34 UTC+11 Greg Sutherland wrote:
The cost of major contracts for two of Sydney's signature metro rail projects has blown out by $566 million, underscoring the budgetary pressures on the NSW government from the construction of new lines for driverless passenger trains.
Tender documents reveal the predicted cost of tunnelling works at the western end of the Metro West rail line between Parramatta and the Sydney CBD has surged by $353 million from its original estimate to $2.7 billion.
The Metro West rail project is due to be completed in 2032.Credit: Janie Barrett
Another contract for about 2.5 kilometres of tunnels under Pyrmont and the CBD, as well as station excavations and other works, has risen by $90 million to $1.88 billion.
Forming the fourth stage of Sydney's metro network, the 24-kilometre line is the largest rail project in the city and due to be completed by 2032, which is two years later than earlier forecasts.
Tender documents also show a $123 million jump to $2.14 billion in the estimated cost of tunnelling and station excavation contract for the 23-kilometre metro line to Western Sydney International Airport.
Coalition transport spokeswoman Natalie Ward said the financial strain on Metro West cast serious doubt over how the government plans to fund an extra station at Rosehill, near Parramatta, without making deeper cuts to critical transport and road infrastructure.
"With transport investment already slashed by 34 per cent, the opportunities for new projects are rapidly shrinking," she said.
Sydney Metro said in a statement that extra costs on the Metro West project included the delivery of extra cross passages in tunnels and bulk earthworks, as well as contamination management.
Advertisement"The current budget envelope for Sydney Metro West includes contingency to manage unforeseen and forecast risks to the project including future contracts," it said.
The agency said the increase to the airport line contract was primarily due to extra cross passages in tunnels and was within the project contingency.
Tunnels for the new metro rail line to Western Sydney Airport.Credit: Janie Barrett
It decided in early 2023 to build cross passages about 240 metres apart in tunnels for the airport line and Metro West after NSW's fire and rescue agency warned of safety risks to emergency workers if they were half a kilometre apart.
Transport Minister John Graham said adjustments to contracts included important works that address feedback from emergency services.
"Metro West blew out by $12 billion when the Liberals were in government. We are working to keep a tight lid on costs and delivery, but certainly won't be taking lectures on project management from the former government responsible for that blow out," he said.
Sydney Metro executives recently told a budget estimates hearing two weeks ago that analysis provided to the government showed Metro West risks costing more than its $25.3 billion budget. However, they said that both Metro West and the airport line project were tracking within their budgets of $25.3 billion and $11 billion respectively.
The Metro West budget does not include the cost of a possible station at Rosehill, which hinges on a vote on April 3 by Australian Turf Club members on controversial plans to sell the suburb's racecourse to create 25,000 new homes.
The cost of a station at Rosehill has been estimated at between $1.5 billion and $2 billion, according to a highly confidential review into Sydney's mega rail projects in late 2023.
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In a sign of the cost and construction pressures on the rail projects, the Minns government committed an extra $1.1 billion in late 2023 to complete the conversion of the heavy rail line between Sydenham and Bankstown to metro train standards.
It pushed the price tag for the entire M1 line between Chatswood and Bankstown to $21.6 billion, almost double an original forecast of $12 billion when the project was announced last decade.
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