Sunday, 22 December 2024

Re: [TramsDownUnder] Parramatta light rail; who from the TDU community was aboard the first tram?

I did a round trip in the afternoon. There were still a lot of enthusiasts about (more than normal background level of DSLRs in use!)

Rode on 4 trams. On only one stop when I realised I'd left my wife behind. :-)
2 of the trams developed Passenger Information Systems faults - one happily announcing that it was stopping at Westmead Hospital while going up the Carlingford railway line! A 3rd was working, but the drivers console was saying there was a PIS fault.
At Carlingford they were manually blocking trams with 'do not move signs'. Despite a year of testing it seems someone decided they needed 'additional protection' for the short single line section. As far as I can determine, the protective signals were working - some one must have had a panic that drivers faced with having to deal with passengers for the first time would SPAD the signal at the platform. So they had staff in HiVis moving these signs about.



The batteries are 130kwhr according to the computer. However they were operating the battery sections in 'degraded mode' according to the 'DDU'. The air conditioning also went into low power mode. The battery sections all ran at low speed (20km/hr max if I read the display correctly)

One trip up the OESS read 127kw at Ngara where they switched to battery, It was 115kw at Westmead. Returning on another car it was 129 at Westmead down to 124 at Ngara (Who would have thought they use much less power going down hill that up!)

We had dinner in Church Street - with trams 'gliding past' literally 1 metre from where I was sitting.

With all the claims of doom and gloom about the destruction of the city centre of Parramatta, the place was crowded and the eateries were all doing a roaring trade. (It was Friday, come Monday it's probably dead till Friday rolls around again...)

Sure beats 'outdoor dining' with buses roaring past.


On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 at 17:58, Geoffrey Hansen <gnhansen290@gmail.com> wrote:
Could we say that Parramatta has finally received electric trams after more than 80 years? 

It's a shame that a steam tram couldn't have been displayed for the opening. 

Regards
Geoffrey 

On Fri, 20 Dec 2024, 17:17 'TP' via TramsDownUnder, <tramsdownunder@googlegroups.com> wrote:
STM has released a timely archival video from the first generation Parramatta tranways to commemorate the opening of the second generation system (or third generation if you want to split hairs about the Parramatta Park museum tramway). There's a faux pas in the caption that says the tram is running along Church Street. The Redbank service never ran along Church Street. I wondered then if it might be a film of the government tram to Castle Hill, but the cars appear to be in Sydney Ferries colours


"Cab video" from Westmead to Carlingford:


Tony P

On Friday, 20 December 2024 at 16:22:35 UTC+11 Mark Skinner wrote:
Hi Paul, 

The problem with the NSW schemes might be illustrated by the SA situation. 

At the 2018 election,  the incoming Liberal Government promised to evaluate a couple of tram extensions. 

It didn't see them as economically viable. So...we got no extensions.  

The major reason was cost. If they were using NSW costs per km, then I  perfectly understand why. SA simply doesn't have that sort of money. 

If, otoh they could have gotten costs down, we'd now have those extensions up and running.

It's quite depressing to know that we could have had more trams and tram routes in Adelaide by now, but poor design and construction techniques directly cause them to be abandoned. It appears that Adelaide Metro is now going for 'long buses' because trams are too expensive. 

Mark Skinner 

On Fri, 20 Dec 2024, 7:42 am pn1 via TramsDownUnder, <tramsdo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

 

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-12-20/parramatta-light-rail-open-day-route-map-westmead-carlingford/104747540?utm_source=abc_news_app&utm_medium=content_shared&utm_campaign=abc_news_app&utm_content=other 

Good to see the support from the general public. Similar to the recent opening of the Metro extension?

Tram enthusiasts are quick to condemn modern developments in Australia citing the dearth of traditional expertise but who would have thought, even a few years ago, that a new "isolated" tram/light rail system would open in metropolitan Sydney.

Paul in Melbourne (who wasn't born when the Enfield and Rockdale systems closed and who missed North Sydney – that closed when he was not quite eight years old!)

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